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Ekco A22 Black & chrome

Post by kalee99 » Wed Mar 23, 2016 5:58 pm

Hi all,

I had a call today from someone I had not heard from for years, My local Scavanger (Licence holder for removing items from the tip). He brought a very dirty Ekco A22 to the door :bba I paid him double what I normaly pay for 'woodies', and he was very happy with that. It is not cracked or chipped anywhere but is missing its two outermost knobs. I think I have some in my spares box.

Inside is un touched and full of dust. I will post photos when I get the camera charged up. I never in a million years though anyone would take a round Ekco of any kind to the tip. Just goes to show that stuff still turns up and not everyone knows its true worth.

Paul.
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Re: Ekco A22 Black & chrome

Post by Cathovisor » Wed Mar 23, 2016 6:51 pm

I cannot think of a more deserving owner :aad Congratulations, you lucky man!

In the modern vernacular - "pics or it didn't happen" :qq1

 
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Re: Ekco A22 Black & chrome

Post by marc » Wed Mar 23, 2016 7:10 pm

You lucky little so and so :)
Well done in deed :aad
Something I've always wanted too and your story proves there is still hope albeit slim. :aaq

Marc.

 
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Re: Ekco A22 Black & chrome

Post by kalee99 » Wed Mar 23, 2016 7:17 pm

Photos as requested
Paul
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Re: Ekco A22 Black & chrome

Post by Kalee20 » Wed Mar 23, 2016 7:56 pm

Wow! You jammy git!!

Looks a good unspoiled candidate for restoring to its former glory. Have lots of fun!

 
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Re: Ekco A22 Black & chrome

Post by Westcliff » Wed Mar 23, 2016 9:13 pm

Great score Paul. That'll come up lovely.

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Re: Ekco A22 Black & chrome

Post by Katie Bush » Thu Mar 24, 2016 12:32 am

Well, I never expected to discover a "Mr Hartley" in our midst!

Some people come up smelling of roses - you come up smothered in jam! - Nice find. :aad

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Re: Ekco A22 Black & chrome

Post by kalee99 » Thu Mar 24, 2016 7:29 am

Hi all,
Thanks for the good comments. I will be doing a full restoration on the set and will do updates & photos as I go. It will take me quite a while as I want to spend some time on it and do a good job.
Close inspection of the cabinet shows no cracks or chips, only lots of surface dirt and splashes of emusion paint (Why do all old radios have paint splashes)?
First job will test the valves which look all origional.
Paul.

 
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Re: Ekco A22 Black & chrome

Post by Lloyd » Thu Mar 24, 2016 6:59 pm

Very nice indeed!! You bagged a beauty there! I'd love to get my hands on a black and chrome A22, I settled for a brown one at last years NVCF for £400, which seemed a good price at the time, they were fetching a bit more than that on eBay. I have a black and chrome AC76 with a damaged cabinet that I have been restoring since 2010!

They are a nice design, I particularly like the chassis layout in these, all the components around the edge, makes them easy to get to! I seem to remember they use the same speaker as the DAC90, as I also have a chassis without case which had a rusty speaker, so I took it off and refurbished it.

Is that just dirt on the front of the dial, or has the white paint started to flake off the back? I saw someone selling replacement dials for these on eBay a while ago, I was going to replace the dial on mine as it's got a crack in it, don't know if they are still available. I think they were about £40.

Good luck with the restoration!

Lloyd.

 
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Re: Ekco A22 Black & chrome

Post by kalee99 » Thu Mar 24, 2016 7:18 pm

Hi,
yes the white background paint is flaking off but I have indeed bought a new dial from the seller you mention.
Removing the dial from the bezle was a sods job. I have heard of this before. The bezle and dial are fitted to a spider made of mazak (monkey metal). In this case the monkey metal is not the problem as the set scews pass straight through this and are screwed into small tapped fittings in the bezel. for some reason these 5 very small screws can be found to be set fast and will not move. I was prepared for this and used a tiny 'easy out', to remove the stubborn devils :aah
New screws all ready to go in as soon as the dial arrives.
Paul.

 
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Re: Ekco A22 Black & chrome

Post by kalee99 » Wed Mar 30, 2016 1:53 pm

Hi all,
been busy making new knobs for this set as their were only two present and one was Brown instead of black.
Bought a molding kit form Ebay which has turned out to way better than expected. The Silicone rubber used to make the molds is very good and once you have a mold of a good knob then you can use that mold many times to cast new knobs.
It was all so simple to do and I am well pleased with the results.
Can anyone tell which is the real Ekco knob & which is the copy on my photos?
No prize for guessing right.

Paul.
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Re: Ekco A22 Black & chrome

Post by marc » Wed Mar 30, 2016 2:02 pm

Hi Paul,

Those knobs look superb, that's a brilliant molding kit.
I'm guessing the left hand one is original but some how the new ones seem to look better !

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Re: Ekco A22 Black & chrome

Post by Terrykc » Wed Mar 30, 2016 5:39 pm

kalee99 wrote:... Bought a molding kit form Ebay which has turned out to way better than expected ... 

Can anyone tell which is the real Ekco knob ...?
Aren't you going to tell us the details of the kit?

Left ...

 
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Re: Ekco A22 Black & chrome

Post by Lloyd » Wed Mar 30, 2016 7:00 pm

They look pretty good!

I have some mould making stuff, it turns into a sort of pink sillicone and captures fine detail brilliantly. I still need to get a good type of resin to actually make the replacement knobs out of, I was using 'Davids Fastglass' resin available from Halfords for use with fiberglass matting, but found I could make fairly reasonable knobs with it, only problem was shrinkage and trying to colour it. I didn't have the correct pigments to colour it so used some model making paints, and also tried adding a drop or two of some black dyed French polish, which although it coloured it perfectly, it left it sticky to the touch.

Regards,
Lloyd

 
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Re: Ekco A22 Black & chrome

Post by Cathovisor » Wed Mar 30, 2016 7:22 pm

Lloyd wrote:I didn't have the correct pigments to colour it so used some model making paints, and also tried adding a drop or two of some black dyed French polish, which although it coloured it perfectly, it left it sticky to the touch.

Many years ago (probably about 25 years in fact, and the project it was for has still yet to be started :ccg ) I spoke to the makers of Isopon, when they were in Leicester about this very subject. The answer is that you need dyes for polyester resin: it's how boats get coloured!

http://www.easycomposites.co.uk/#!/resi ... ur-pigment

 
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Re: Ekco A22 Black & chrome

Post by crackle » Wed Mar 30, 2016 9:14 pm

A lucky find with the radio, and the knobs look superb, good enough to fool me.

When I was building my boat I found polyester resin, the type used on boats and cars to be very brittle when set with no glass mat to add strength, and liable to crack easily. I am not sure it would withstand the forces of turning a wave change switch.
I believe that polyurethane Casting Resin is better quality but I have never tried it. I keep meaning to get around to giving it a try.

Mike

 
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Re: Ekco A22 Black & chrome

Post by Lloyd » Wed Mar 30, 2016 9:22 pm

I'll have to get some of that! I was meaning to get some proper pigment, but I was being a cheapskate as usual.. :cch

It's about time I got back to restoring something bakelite, and with valves in it..

Regards,
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Re: Ekco A22 Black & chrome

Post by Cathovisor » Wed Mar 30, 2016 9:39 pm

Crackle wrote:When I was building my boat I found polyester resin, the type used on boats and cars to be very brittle when set with no glass mat to add strength, and liable to crack easily. I am not sure it would withstand the forces of turning a wave change switch.
I believe that polyurethane Casting Resin is better quality but I have never tried it. I keep meaning to get around to giving it a try.

Here you go, Mike.
The resin: http://www.easycomposites.co.uk/#!/resi ... resin.html
The pigment: http://www.easycomposites.co.uk/#!/resi ... resin.html
The filler powder: http://www.easycomposites.co.uk/#!/resi ... esins.html

Gotta be worth a go?
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Re: Ekco A22 Black & chrome

Post by kalee99 » Sat Apr 02, 2016 12:06 pm

Hi all,

Progress so far. Tested valves and ECH35 was hardly moving the tester pointer. so dug a spare out. All other valves tested up to 90% good including the EBL 31.
Changed all wax capacitors and the electrolytics. Run up on Variac over 10 minutes. Radio 5 live blasting in loud & clear.
So its just some rotted wiring to replace, a good clean up, alignment and re assembly.
Photos to follow soon.

Paul.

 
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Re: Ekco A22 Black & chrome

Post by Stitch » Sat Apr 02, 2016 3:37 pm

What a great find Paul, makes you wonder just how much does end up in the skip :(

Can you post the link to the molding kit you used?

Thanks

John

 
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Re: Ekco A22 Black & chrome

Post by kalee99 » Sat Apr 02, 2016 5:27 pm

Hello John,

certainly can

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/161026748789

It came with full instructions. All I needed to add was some icecream tubs and spoons to do the mixing and molding. Rubber gloves are essential and it pongs something terrible while mixing and setting. Once set its hardly got any smell at all.

Paul.

 
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Re: Ekco A22 Black & chrome

Post by Stitch » Sat Apr 02, 2016 6:05 pm

Thanks Paul, the results are very good, I may give that a go sometime.

John

 
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Re: Ekco A22 Black & chrome

Post by Doz » Sat Apr 02, 2016 9:16 pm

Those knobs are fantastic! May be a solution to the missing knobs on my ferranti.

Thanks for sharing, and good luck with the set.

 
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Re: Ekco A22 Black & chrome

Post by kalee99 » Fri Apr 08, 2016 2:36 pm

Hi all,

Just got finished on this one.
It was very simple to get sorted. Just a lot of cleaning and re capping.
Plays very well on all 3 wavebands consiering its just a short superhet.
Paul.
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Re: Ekco A22 Black & chrome

Post by Katie Bush » Fri Apr 08, 2016 2:58 pm

"Currently available at £7-10/6, or if you wish, you can have it on 'easy terms' for only 10s deposit"..

That's a lovely job. :aad It makes me wish I could afford one! - No chance of that!

Just one thing I'm wondering about, is the cabinet naturally a matte appearance? Or does still need a polish? - and that's my ignorance showing. :ccg

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