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Ever Ready Serial Numbers Discussion

 
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Re: Ever Ready Serial Numbers Discussion

Post by Michael Watterson » Fri Jan 11, 2013 3:59 pm

Is there any difference other than Cosmetic on your Emperors vs Commanders? Same Bands and Printing on Tuning scale?

Thanks Robert!

 
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Re: Ever Ready Serial Numbers Discussion

Post by Paul_RK » Fri Jan 11, 2013 6:15 pm

Sky Baby (valve), SB 012969.

I've a Berec Ballerina lurking somewhere too. Nice metal chassis construction on these models but the very thin and fragile plastic top panel is on the cheap and nasty side. Quite unusual to see a 1/4" ferrite rod.

 
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Re: Ever Ready Serial Numbers Discussion

Post by Michael Watterson » Fri Jan 11, 2013 7:26 pm

Then :)
Some Walkman style Cassette/Radios used them. But much shorter!

 
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Re: Ever Ready Serial Numbers Discussion

Post by cobaltblue » Fri Jan 11, 2013 7:57 pm

Hi Michael

I have found one of my Car Portables (the other is only fit for spares) its serial number is SCP030494

Cheers

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Re: Ever Ready Serial Numbers Discussion

Post by Robert Darwent » Fri Jan 11, 2013 8:20 pm

Michael Watterson wrote:Is there any difference other than Cosmetic on your Emperors vs Commanders? Same Bands and Printing on Tuning scale?


Identical in all respects as far as I can tell, apart from the colour scheme and the badges.

Ever Ready Sky Emperor.jpg
Ever Ready Sky Emperor

Berec Commander.jpg
Berec Commander


However it is possible there may be some very subtle differences to the circuit. I'm thinking here of the related Philips Colette (LD562AB) and Clipper (L5X62AB) models which appear electronically identical, but the Colette's IF's are 10.7MHz & 460kHz compared to the Clipper's 10.7MHz & 452kHz.

Philips Colette LD562AB.jpg
Philips Colette LD562AB

Philips Clipper L5X62AB.jpg
Philips Clipper L5X62AB


Having said that, I don't believe that is so with regards the Emperor and Commander.

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Re: Ever Ready Serial Numbers Discussion

Post by Michael Watterson » Fri Jan 11, 2013 9:45 pm

A Colette sold this evening for €175 and it's not as nice as yours :)

Hmm the Red and Tan opposite way round to Countess and Wizard.

 

Re: Ever Ready Serial Numbers Discussion

Post by Robert Darwent » Fri Jan 11, 2013 10:28 pm

Michael Watterson wrote:A Colette sold this evening for €175 and it's not as nice as yours :)


I missed noticing that one Michael and thanks for the compliment!

If memory serves I think I paid around £75 including P&P from a seller in the UK for that particluar set which I later restored and recovered with the vinyl snakeskin. I assume you've seen the following thread;

http://www.vintage-radio.net/forum/show ... hp?t=32802

The restoration also subsequently appeared as an article in the BVWS Bulletin (Vol.36 No.1 - Spring 2011 issue).

In the last couple of years I've also picked up a couple of the green rexine covered Colette's from sellers in Germany, both at around the £60-70 mark. They are quite scarce sets but not as rare as the Emperor/Commander or the Vanguard, they usually turn up at the rate of one or two per year on eBay.de from experience.

In my opinion the Colette is a far better set than any of the British offerings. Then again Philips, Akkord, Grundig and the like had a head start on the manufacturers over here with VHF (UKW) valve portables.

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Re: Ever Ready Serial Numbers Discussion

Post by Michael Watterson » Sat Jan 12, 2013 12:32 am

Certainly my Annette LD480 (Philips for German market) is incredible performance LW/MW/VHF, exceeding all the other valve and transistor sets I have. The Vidor Vanguard isn't as good on any band, despite all DF97 IFs.

 
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Re: Ever Ready Serial Numbers Discussion

Post by Michael Watterson » Mon Jan 21, 2013 4:21 pm

Here is a an updated list of Ever Ready and approximately equivalent BEREC, The Harlequin & Sky casket was the biggest surprise.

http://www.radiomuseum.org/forum/berec_ ... lents.html

The BEREC Pioneer serial numbers apparently are prefixed with CR

So BEREC prefixes so far
BCR Commander
BD Demon in > styled Demon cabinet
CR Pioneer
SM Matador

No obvious scheme


Ever Ready models
Earlier models use a single letter, equal to model letter.

Some "Sky" Models use a single letter
including Sky Prince (P) and Sky Queen (Q) Sky Monarch AM/FM (V)
A, B, C, D, G, H, J, K, N, P, Q, T, V
(Bold is confirmed)

Later models use 2 or 3 letters starting (so far ) with S

(S and Initials, ignoring Sky)
SB Sky Baby
SC Sky Casket (1958)
SE Sky Emperor (1957)
SK Sky King
SCP Car Portable
(Will Sky Queen II be SQ?


(S with First & Last letter)
SCS Sky Countess
SPE Sky Prince, Transistor (1961)
SLR Sky Leader (1958 - 1962)
SMR Sky Master, Late (1964)
SQN Sky Queen III

(S with two other letters)
SLD Malaysian Skyleader.

 
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Re: Ever Ready Serial Numbers Discussion

Post by Paul_RK » Mon Jan 21, 2013 4:43 pm

Michael Watterson wrote:(Will Sky Queen II be SQ?


Right first time :thumbl:
Sky Queen II: SQ 003869

 
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Re: Ever Ready Serial Numbers Discussion

Post by Stitch » Wed Jan 23, 2013 9:43 pm

I saw this in the local 'house clearance' shop and couldn't resist. I don't normally bother with transistor radios but I'm glad I did, I can see the attraction of these early 60's Ever Ready's.

It was £7.50 which seems reasonable?

I believe this is an early model (1962) and apart from being filthy its in excellent order, all complete and unbroken (the cloth just appears to be loose) .. but may need some advise if it doesn't work :thumbl:

S/N: SMR 025237

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Re: Ever Ready Serial Numbers Discussion

Post by Michael Watterson » Wed Jan 23, 2013 10:12 pm

Later production of Sky Master, serial numbers SMR46201 & upwards have a different temperature stabilising circuit for the audio output stage.


Early
http://www.radiomuseum.org/r/ever_sky_master.html

Later
http://www.radiomuseum.org/r/ever_sky_master_2.html
Adds temperature compensation.
There are not very many transistor Ever Ready even if you don't ignore the four later "Bought In" models. So probably worth having if collecting post WWII Ever Ready at all.
Nothing like KB / ITT / Schaub-Lorentz family etc. Or even Bush (including all the later post Rank models).

It's a set that seems to work well, I have 6 x AAA in a cardboard PP7 copy. Though in theory PP7 are still just available.

Yours looks excellent. The cloth is easily fixed by taking radio out of case and removing baffle. Though on my Sky Leader I used a small amount of SMD workstation heat gun to shrink out baggyness. (Hair dryer might work)

 
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Re: Ever Ready Serial Numbers Discussion

Post by Terrykc » Thu Jan 24, 2013 11:29 am

Michael Watterson wrote: (Hair dryer might work)

That was the traditional method - and less likely to cause the damage that higher temperature heat sources are capable of ...!

 
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Re: Ever Ready Serial Numbers Discussion

Post by Stitch » Thu Jan 24, 2013 12:03 pm

Thanks for tips guys, I'm looking forward to this one.

And Michael I've just read your Sky Master thread which is very helpful too.

John

 
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Re: Ever Ready Serial Numbers Discussion

Post by Michael Watterson » Thu Jan 24, 2013 1:00 pm

Terrykc wrote:
Michael Watterson wrote: (Hair dryer might work)

That was the traditional method - and less likely to cause the damage that higher temperature heat sources are capable of ...!

Well, the SMD heat gun has variable temperature and air flow.

A DIY heat gun is too severe.

 
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Re: Ever Ready Serial Numbers Discussion

Post by Michael Watterson » Mon Jan 28, 2013 10:38 am

A kind ebay seller:

T528705 an early model T, as it's DL92 so can't have DK92(late 1951) or DL94(early 1950). But no elusive pair of dial lamps shown on Ever Ready Manual with separate 1.5V battery marked "used on Model `T' only"
There is no indication on a Model T at all other than Valves used which version it is. Though there are 3 versions of valve base wiring, the service supplement suggests versions can have ANY mix of changes between original circuit and final circuit given.

 
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Re: Ever Ready Serial Numbers Discussion

Post by Paul_RK » Mon Jan 28, 2013 11:10 am

Yes, I've seen at least one Model T with a little round brown bakelite button - can't remember exactly where it was positioned - to be held down whenever the dial lamps were required. My own set doesn't have it.

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Re: Ever Ready Serial Numbers Discussion

Post by Stitch » Mon Jan 28, 2013 9:14 pm

My Model T has the button between the knobs and I may be wrong but I thought it was brass, I'll have a look tomorrow if anyone is interested.

Although the service data is for a later model it lists the valves for each version, only there is an error as i think it was V3 and 4 that are reversed, this did confuse me for a while!

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Re: Ever Ready Serial Numbers Discussion

Post by Michael Watterson » Mon Jan 28, 2013 9:42 pm

I gave Chris a copy of the Official Ever Ready manual covering all variations for the Library.

Actually here is complete list of OFFICIAL ER booklets (I scanned the real copies so if any problem ask and I will repeat the offending part at higher resolution). Chris has copies now of all these but may not upload until someone asks:

Pre War and all except 5001 have Lissen Equivalents
5001
5009
5011 (inc original pages from Wireless Broadcaster)
5017
5019
5020

Post War
A
B2
K
T
C/E includes C/A
N includes N3
Sky Queen
Sky Prince
Sky Princess (BEREC Calypso)
BEREC Fiesta
Sky Countess (BEREC Wizard)
Sky Leader (BEREC Demon)
Skylark
Skylark MkII

R&TS and Trader sheets for all models that were published can be available via technical library too. I like to compare as not all cover the same things. Watch out for different publishing using different component designation.

 
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Re: Ever Ready Serial Numbers Discussion

Post by Michael Watterson » Wed Jan 30, 2013 5:21 pm

Paul has discovered there were FOUR versions of the BEREC Pioneer released, probably 1956
Updated
http://www.radiomuseum.org/r/berec_pioneer.html

So in answer to http://www.portabletubes.co.uk/portables/berec.htm
CR is probably the C version plus last letter of Pioneer ?
So maybe there is AR, BR and DR also?
A Pioneer
B Pioneer
C Pioneer
D Pioneer

That wouldn't conflict (which is one aspect of Serial Number system) and also different models at different periods use different (but mostly consistent) schemes.

 
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Re: Ever Ready Serial Numbers Discussion

Post by Stitch » Sat Aug 17, 2013 2:32 pm

Another one to add to the list:

I picked this one up at a market this morning for £8.

S/N - K 40609

The battery has 10/05/66 written on it, probably around the last time it was used. Also says 19/6, could be the battery price?

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Re: Ever Ready Serial Numbers Discussion

Post by Michael Watterson » Sat Aug 17, 2013 2:55 pm

The 1st model K version has a smaller speaker grill and no surround, all plain painted cabinets.

But I think there are two versions of yours, one painted and maybe the last versions are "Rexine" type covering?

Is yours painted or covered?

The 19/6 sounds like a battery price. I think the Valve Radio batteries vanished during 1967 / 1968. Oddly the Winner 9V (all cells on taps) and Winner 120 may have been still on sale in 1970s. Used by Schools Physics labs.

 
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Re: Ever Ready Serial Numbers Discussion

Post by Stitch » Sun Aug 18, 2013 10:13 am

This one does have the covering rather than being painted.

John

 
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Re: Ever Ready Serial Numbers Discussion

Post by crackle » Sun Aug 18, 2013 10:57 am

I have a Sky Queen, s/n Q744407

Mike

 
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Re: Ever Ready Serial Numbers Discussion

Post by Michael Watterson » Sun Aug 18, 2013 12:20 pm

Stitch wrote:This one [Model K] does have the covering rather than being painted.
John

Thanks
DK91 or DK92?
DL92 or DL94?

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